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Broly (Movie 8) > Majin Vegeta?
Topic Started: May 28 2012, 09:32 PM (1,153 Views)
GridZero
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Before you read this, you should note that this is a crude theory, and is still in development. Please try and follow my logic carefully.

Now, here's the theory.

If you believe Shigeyasu Yamauchi's (the producer of Movies 8 and 10) statement, that Broly was set up to be stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan in Movie 8, then logically, Broly in Movie 8 should be stronger than Majin Vegeta.

Why?

Chapter: 465 (DBZ 271), P2.3
Context:
as Vegeta fights Boo
Piccolo: ''He's already surpassed Super Saiyan as well...This is tremendous power...Perhaps even greater than Gohan's when he fought Cell...''

So Piccolo questions himself on Vegeta's power being greater than SSJ2 Gohan's, but we already know that Broly is stronger.

Now, if you believe that Shigeyasu Yamauchi's statement about Broly derives from Movie 10, then LSSJ Broly > SSJ2 Teen Gohan > SSJ2 Kid Gohan ~ Majin Vegeta

My thoughts, and theory.

Anyone care to add, speculate, or debate on this?
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Billa
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I can only say that when canon & non-canon materials intercept, it results in nothin more than complications.

Personally, I have M8 Broly around Full Power Perfect Cell, give or take.
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Yes but, you have to think about this. Him saying it's stronger then SSJ2 Teen Gohan only means him. The multiplier goes into their power levels as well. Vegeta was a lot stronger at the point. Plus the SSJ2 bonus. Plus the Majin boost. If he could take on Majin Buu for the short time he did and put up a great fight against SSJ2 Goku, then he is much stronger then LSSJ Broly.
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SSJ2 Teen Gohan ( enraged ) in movie 10 didnt had such big gap between Broly and him. Majin Vegeta is stated to be above SSJ2 Kid Gohan
( before killing Cell ).

So its realy hard to decide if Broly can stomp Vegeta so hard because they made him slower than Gohan + getting overpowered in one scene which doesnt make sence and because of that i dont have them in big gap.

I have Majin Vegeta and Goku on top tiers SSJ2, while Broly could be on pair with them or maybe even stronger. Still dont know where to put him but i go now with SSJ2 Majin Vegeta = SSJ2 Goku >= LSSJ Broly.


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There is no why, there shouldnt even be room for believing thats what the producer meant, let alone could even do.

Broly was set up to be the strongest saiyan in the movie and only the movie, and taking what he said out of context to satisfy an argument that shouldnt exist doesnt work.

he wasnt setup to beat gohan, he was setup to beat GOKU, who is the undeniably the strongest saiyan in that movie until broly shows up.

Gohan was stronger than goku in the manga. No movie can change that.

Edited by Paikuan extreme, May 29 2012, 12:34 AM.
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Thala na Gethu!

^ As much as I hate to say this, I agree with this guy..
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Kuririn said it himself

wow, broly must be really sore at goku to come all this way for a rematch.

and instead goku wins again. strongest saiyan or not broly lost to a saiyan that wasnt anywhere NEAR majin vegetas power.

Edited by Paikuan extreme, May 29 2012, 12:37 AM.
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Billa
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Thala na Gethu!

^ Instead of double-posting, why dont you simply edit?
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Ah yeah, I didn't factor in a lot of this stuff.

But Broly didn't expressly come to ask Goku for a rematch, lol. IIRC, he was frozen into the Earth.
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Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri
May 29 2012, 12:39 AM
^ Instead of double-posting, why dont you simply edit?
stop backseat modding, and a double post is consecutive posts, not an answer to my previous.

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Billa
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Thala na Gethu!

Ninjajp247
May 29 2012, 04:16 AM
Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri
May 29 2012, 12:39 AM
^ Instead of double-posting, why dont you simply edit?
stop backseat modding, and a double post is consecutive posts, not an answer to my previous.

BOT
Relax, why are you being so aggressive? I wasn't backseat modding.
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Chill out guys and stick to debating. :)

Now, i beleive Majin Vegeta> LSSJ Broly, just because Gohan didn't even put up a decent fight.
Edited by amsmagic, May 29 2012, 04:48 AM.
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This is just my opinion but i have movie 8 broly slightly weaker then super perfect cell,
so majin vegeta should be slightly stronger imo.
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I believe that Broly in Movie 10 would curbstomp Majin Vegeta. SSJ2 Teen Gohan was stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan, and he put up a horrible fight against Broly.

Like stated before, Majin Vegeta is ''perhaps'' stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan, whereas Broly is definitely stronger, by a wide margin.
Edited by GridZero, May 29 2012, 01:16 PM.
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Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri
May 29 2012, 04:22 AM
Ninjajp247
May 29 2012, 04:16 AM
Chou Supa Saiyajin Suri
May 29 2012, 12:39 AM
^ Instead of double-posting, why dont you simply edit?
stop backseat modding, and a double post is consecutive posts, not an answer to my previous.

BOT
Relax, why are you being so aggressive? I wasn't backseat modding.
what is it with you calling people names?

why am I being aggressive? because im not passive?

i dont get your accusation, you dedicate a post to telling me not to double post, i tell you dont backseat mod, sounds about right to me.

Making accusations with a suggestion at the end doesnt mean ur being cool. It just means youre trying to tell people what to do and have no basis for even speaking on it.

i didnt double post, the end.

I agree with grid zero, majin vegeta would have to go all out IMHO along with SSj2 goku in order to beat broly.

and im talking fight like a saiyan. to kill. thats the only way he will win. Otherwise its beat down city for him and anyone not good buu.

Goku didnt realize until the end that broly needed to be killed, he couldnt be reasoned with. So goku tried to kill him.

in order to stop broly, you have to kill him. Not fight him.
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